My all time favorite spot for book shopping is a slum-ish back street in the shadows of the tall buildings in bank road, saddar. The place is packed with rows of book stores and old book banks providing a bounteous supply of all sorts of books. A quite corner where you can almost feel the aroma of books in the air. And of course, the place is a heaven for pirated book predators like me.

So yesterday while I was there, upon entering a bookshop I was greeted by a familiar face. It was there on the counter, on the front shelves and all the conspicuous display points. It was none other than Mumtaz Qadri, beaming proudly out of the front cover of a thick fat book. Like always, smirking smugly at his new found celebrity status. To my own surprise, this didn’t come as any surprise. Rather, it was expected. I picked up the book (pretty heavy) and leafed through it. The book titled ‘Parwana-e-sham-e-rasalat’ was a collection of all the glossy adjectives you can possibly find in Urdu literature glorifying ‘Ghazi’ Malik Mumtaz Hussain Qadri. I placed the book back to the counter and took out my cell-phone to capture the image of the title. The shopkeeper, mistaking it as an act of some sacred intention (or perhaps a secret crush) broke into a grin and started ardently on the success of this book, pushing me into buying it ( no thanks, I don’t have haram ka paisa). I gave a sheepish no and headed out after tucking in a few titles.

The last big fish that was showcased like this here was Twilight.

Paulo Coelho in his book ‘The Winner Stands Alone’ writes:-

“Various biological studies have shown that if a frog is placed in a container along with water from its own pond, it will remain there, utterly still, while the water is slowly heated up. The frog doesn’t react to the gradual increase in temperature, to the changes in its environment, and when the water reaches boiling point, the frog dies, fat and happy.

‘On the other hand, if a frog is thrown into a container full of already boiling water, it will jump straight out again, scalded, but alive!”

The essence of these words merges quite well in our present state. A frog puts an enormous amount of trust in its environment. The pond is where it is hatched, where it embraces life and where it grows through the different stages of life. It’s his home, which for him holds synonymy with safety, shelter and security. Home. So when he is heated in the same pond water, he fails to acknowledge the lethal change. The water warms up. Indifference. Water further heats up. No adrenaline rush. The water temperature crosses red limit. The frog still certain the water cant cause him any harm. Water boils. The frog is dead.

The frog’s unconditional faith proved fatal.

We can also feel the vitriol of radicalization seeping deep down our social structure. We are well aware of the fact that the seeds of venom have sprouted to ferocious monstors; trampling here, there, everywhere. We can feel the water boiling but just like that frog we are in a state of constant denial. How can our own people be a threat for us? The truth is that we deem these people undisruptive. Just like a mother who adamantly believes her naughty kids have gone a little wild. Temporary. Temporary.

These days, hate literature is distributed like cheap sweet candies. The demand of blood is parallel to lets say electricity. There are people who are waging large scale campaigns encouraging the open slaughter of Ahmediya community. We are silent. We are indifferent. We are immune to the changes in water temperature.

Bloodshed isn’t the only jeopardy here. What these elements are up to is slowly and steadily poisoning our probity, corrupting our sense of values and sagacity. In this recent famous video, the Ameer of JUI (Jamat e Ulema-e-Islam) was stamping his feet urging frantically that raped women must remain silent instead of seeking justice (Idiot). Isn’t this enough to jerk us out of sleep, to make us realize that these self-proclaimed guardians of religion are a termite to our social and moral fabric? Can’t you smell the foul stench? Can’t you feel the water heating rather BOILING up?

I think not. We are ideologically brought up into believing ourselves the best of community (sharing the same faith). Out of a sense of insecurity, we were fed a crooked sense of patriotism and brotherhood-love each other, hate all rest. Yes we the glorious, we the innocents, we the ‘brave heart’, we the champions, we the just (the only ones), we the noble, we the dignified. And nowadays; we the wronged ones, we the misunderstood. But never wrong, never dangerous. Pick media, pick history, pick your own syllabus; the only hero in the picture is from us and the villain from them. The initial intention was to perhaps create some exceptional sense of unity and nationalism. It didn’t succeed, though what it installed in our minds was a strong overconfidence in our ideals, in our people, in ‘us’.

We don’t feel threatened because we lack the capability of doing so, the capability to feel the change. We, like that frog have a delusional sense of assurance for anything remotely related to us. The water is boiling, the alarms are ringing. It is better to come out of this situation scaled but at least alive. Otherwise, we will also die just like the frog-fat and happy.

A possible future.

94 thoughts on “A frog-like fate?

  1. Nice and articulated article but unfortunately it is not giving the whole picture.
    what you have mentioned in your article is an allegorical expression of a general reaction of the society…. Reaction against what???
    We all know that. now these things are going global and under the efficient supervision of local elite..

    • –reaction to whats eating us up: radicalization and hate brewing ideologies.
      –And yes I agree with your point about the local upper-hand. No denying it.
      –Plus I had to mention it to you that there comes some certain problem while commenting on ur blog. try fixing that.
      thanks for your feedback :]

      • Hate brewing ideologies do not come from empty spaces. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. That is a law and applies to every society. Murder of Malaoon Salman Taseer was an example of action/reaction. You eloquently brought the reaction and got an ovation from the readers but you didn’t mentioned the series of events taken place before this murder.
        Let me remind you that:
        * Salman Taseer was holding an important position of the state. He took an oath to protect the law and constitution but what he did?
        * He over looked the sentiments of reverence and profound respect of the prophet (pbuh) in the hearts and minds of the people of Pakistan.
        * He violated his oath and called the blasphemy law as a black law.
        * He went to the jail to meet a convicted criminal and took her signature on mercy petition with out request before completion of judicial procedures. Supreme court was never approached .(mudaai sust gawah chust)
        * Finally that women is saved and Global civilization of blasphemy gave
        a message to all Pakistani nation that “we will curse your prophet and you shall be unable to do any thing.
        * Blasphemy law is in fact protects the criminal. No one in Pakistan is ever sentenced to death because of blasphemy. The only benefit of this law is that it gives a sense that Pakistani constitution is an Islamic constitution . Otherwise there is no usefulness of this law. Now you want to take the pride away from the people of Pakistan by calling it a
        black law and do every thing to nullify the law.
        * Why you are not looking that way.
        * Why do you want parameters of the western civilization in Islamic republic of Pakistan at the cost of emotional trauma and perversion of the nation?
        * why do you guys always fail to estimate the level of reverence in the hearts and minds of your own fellow citizens?


        • Sorry to point out that at this point, our views dont meet at any point. As for the ST case, you can read my previous posts on that subject.
          You emphasized that ST betrayed the spirit of upholding the constitution, why? How can you be so sure that this constitution is 101% correct? You know well the number of times our constitution changed. So were those changes also traitor ship? This all is an evolutionary process and with times many things may fit or get mis-fit in our constitutional structure. Just passing a verdict that no one must challenge the constitution is irrational. Ok, lets say ST was wrong. then what? he didnt enforce his viewpoint through murder or any compressional tool. Do you think it was justified to kill him in return? Is murder in any case justified? Does being religious give a person the license to take lives on plea of “understandable emotions”? I’m also against B-laws, so do I also deserve the same fate? why cant we just agree to disagree? Why should I remain silent, why dont I have the freedom to express my views-since you are of the opinion that our people’s sentiments are too precious to be challenged. I’m human. I have my weaknesses. I can be wrong. The counter take is simply an argument, a civil debate on whats right or whats wrong. What you are saying is nothing but justification for violence.
          as for what u said :-
          * Why do you want parameters of the western civilization in Islamic republic of Pakistan at the cost of emotional trauma and perversion of the nation?
          * why do you guys always fail to estimate the level of reverence in the hearts and minds of your own fellow citizens?

          So who is to decide whose opinion is more precious? Just because people dont like certain things we shouldnt even discuss that? Majority of Pak loves stashing women rights. Yes, I should remain silent because people don’t like me speaking about it out of emotional vulnerability.
          I respect ur views but no I dont agree.

          • It’s painful what I just read in one of the previous comments that If we didn’t slaughter blasphemous people, they’d know they can be blasphemous and can get away with it. Glory be to the lawmakers, now anyone can be accused of blasphemy and then we can proceed with the holy murder, we the Ghazi, they the malaoons. And so, we do a great service to Islam. I don’t remember the Holy Prophet (PBUH) ever telling anyone to slaughter people because they were disrespectful to him. In fact, he used to be even NICER to them. He spread Islam not on gunpoint, but through his unmatched virtues. The biggest blasphemy is when we take Allah’s role in our hands and decide who lives and who dies – in the name of God!

  2. You may be young but your thoughts , visions and the way you look at the world is that of a wise man. If only the world thinks like you, heaven will find its way on earth. Peace and order will come to all. So true when you said, “We can feel the water boiling but just like that frog we are in a state of constant denial.” Men and women are numb to the anguish of others, to the cry of the environment, to the effect of calamities, of war on others. Most of us just turn on the ” I don’t care button” and move on with our daily lives like nothing happened. A lot of us can’t relate cause we’re not the victims. But as a human being with heart and soul, we should feel emphaty and should have the guts to help and make a difference. Great post.

  3. Hello Habiba

    If I have one complaint it would be that you don’t write as aften as I would like you to. But when you do..you do write some amazing articles!

    I’m hoping that a time will come when we are all aware of what hate really does to us and our society. Certainy no good has ever come from hate.
    I do think that time will come! I certainly hope so

    It’s always good to see you my friend.

    Wishing you a beautiful day !

    • @Mystafied, haha yes I am under the charges of updating my blog once in blue moon, but you, my friend also fall in the same category. Though I’m a grand failure and you passable-attendance wise. Nice to hear from you :]

  4. Gradual change, acceptance of the bad with the good seems to be happening with all factions in our society, and as you so rightly point out Habiba, as with the frog and his situation, everyone is in danger of non reaction through a firm belief that we are safe and sound in our own little pond.. A to the point and warning blog my friend, xPenx

  5. Good write-up, but that’s what one would call a real frogomorphic view of mankind, rather than an anthropomorphic view of frogs. It’s like over half a century ago, BF Skinner experimented much the same way with rats, which led to the inimitable Arthur Koestler to say this was a ratomorphic view of mankind.
    Yes, I borrowed from that, nonetheless, probably my comments are justified.
    Besides, your allegories are good, and you articulated a situation, but where are your practical solutions, Memsaab ?
    Best !

    • of course, it was supposed to be a frogomorphic view. Just another angle of viewing a certain situation, you may call it one dimensional.
      As for solutions, that I answered in the last couple of lines: It is better to come out of this situation scaled but at least alive.
      just for elaboration, it means certain measure like a complete ban on any type of hate material, or any such speeches or sermons which urge for violence. A complete ban on campaigns that call for bloodshed. A review of our text books, full of hate speech and racism. The point is just to induce such measure that tend to root out the embedded intolerance.
      btw, sorry if i sound paranoid but I get a hint of irony in the last two lines. just my imagination or..?

      • Truly appreciate your bold views. ” Root out embedded intolerance ” is not going to happen, at least collectively, in the Land of the Pure ( sorry to say that, as an Indian ). It can happen, at the individual level, which is what is meant by the original meaning of Jihad, as meant by the Prophet ( PBUH ).
        Much as I sympathised with the daughter of Salman Taseer, Ms. Shehrbano, for the manner in which she lost her father, during a recent interview of hers on BBC, I was aghast that she could actually put forward views that only and actually present a wrong perspective. The only humour I could capture was her use of the word “fundoos”, which probably is Pakistanis unique contribution to the English lexicon. She said that her father had read the Koran seven times in full. Now, how many times should the Koran be read to make one a perfect Muslim ?
        She also mentioned something about ” Islam and the West “, which also does not mean anything, because one is a matter of Faith, and the other of Geography. That phrase is much misused and imbecile, at that.

        Then she spoke about ” people doing Jihad “, which treads on controversial ground. As I understand it, what the Prophet ( PBUH ) meant by Jihad, is the conquest of good over evil in one’s own self, not by sword ( or AK-47, for that matter ) to eliminate disbelievers of the true faith, which erroneous perception of Jihad has shed much too much blood.
        More later, I am turning in for the night. Bye

        • @Indiajones, I actually agree with your point that collective change in attitude is less like to occur here. And no, I didn’t mind you using that phrase it since I can judge that your intentions weren’t neg here. Like you said, its more effective and more likely on individual level in our case. As for what you highlighted about sheherbano taseer’s interview, your points do carry weight. But we all on one scale or the other can make such errors, its at times understandable. Also when stricken with a blow, one can be expected to go overboard. Not that I’m sticking with her viewpoint. Thankyou for the enlightening and thought provoking feedback, it was a pleasure discussing this subject with you :]

  6. This is a nicely structured piece of criticism. It doesn’t matter that you didn’t articulate the specific source of this criticism–because it could be about anything. It can be from the monotony of daily living to injustice. The reader will take from this piece what they want.

    I’m not a political person as I believe politicians as with government are necessary evils, so I can’t get into specifics, but I will say that I’m like the frog. I have grown used to ubiquitous punditry by those ill-equipped to act.

  7. Hi Habiba,
    I agree everything changes gradually but we fail to realise it but when we look back everythings different… Very well written… Liked the frogs example.. N that man thought you had a secret crush? lol… You need to write more often my friend…

    • First of all, FINALLY I know your name, lols. You know while in anonymous cover, the other person always has the curiosity element. thanks for liking it, Sheena :]

  8. Very well written and articulated. I hope the people you’ve talked about read this and get some sense instilled in them :)

  9. A very well articulated piece. It all boils down to the identity crisis that we are suffering from as a nation collectively. Lets face it! And the events have led to mounting polarisation, intolerance and hate mongering. As you so aptly put it ” We are in a state of constant denial” . Indeed we are. The irony is that standing at the verge of destruction, we still blatantly refuse to open our eyes to blinding realities. Extremism, intolerance and hatred have so seeped into our social fabric as if we seek some sadistic pleasure in exercising them. The only escape that we may resort to stems from ( first of all ) realization. Unless and until we continue to live in a state of denial, we are doomed!

  10. Well said, Habiba – ideologies are taught but very seldom balanced with the teaching of critical thinking skills – I think the latter should be compuslory in schools in all sectors of society – we should be taught to actively challenge our own thinking. But, of course, that’s never going to happen. Complacency is far more comfortable.

  11. Sorry to bother you again ….
    I forgot to agree with the allegory of frog and boiling water at least I can cur but in my way because I can see a boiling water and a dead frog.
    Thanks for your patience.

  12. I am always so impressed that you are so young because your knowledge and opinions are that of someone so educated and smart and older! Kudos to you for not only expressing your thoughts but backing them up here in the comments so eloquently.

  13. A group of people with cruel brains and evil intentions is using Islam for it’s notorious goals.
    As a nation, we’re just too handicapped to think what’s going on. How shall I worry about this gradual change while I am already sinking in sea of electricity shortage, natural gases’ absence, towering inflation, blasts, brutal killings, corruption, absence of education, no health facilities … a list impossible to conclude.

    Spectacular post!

  14. thanks Raheel, you are very right in your point. As for the problems typical to third world countries, we are not the only ones suffering from it. There are many countries even poorer to us, but they are generally more sensitive to such issues which we deem casual. Its not exclusively the poor who succumbed to it, the phenomenon is catching fire in the elite & educated as well, rather they most of the times steer it. but yes from certain prospective, you are right. depends from which angle you analyze it.

  15. enjoyed your post. we are ignoring the slow but consistent radicalization of a major portion of our society because of misunderstanding Islam. and yet at the same time i feel there is also a segment of our society(possibly the elite) that is on the other extreme, where there is a gradual degradation of moral and religious values. And the gulf between the two is widening. I dont know what to blame. But i know that niether is right.

  16. Great post:) but unfortunately we live in a society where questioning its norms and ideologies mean getting a fatwa of being Ghustakh , Dehriya etc etc….no one realizes that this trust is going to cost us ….even back in the days of Prophet PBUH the non believers used to say the same thing….hamaaray baap dadda ka deen ghalat nhi hy…Everyone saw where it lead them…to HELL!! I wish we could do a bit more research on Islam and be a practical muslims instead of lifting guns and grenades at every issue

  17. I would like to say that yes… nationalism has given us that certain arrogance where our race is better than anyone else. Not that it’s entirely wrong in itself, it is good to have a sense of identity – of belonging. However, to not recognize that the culture as a whole has flaws (which we can still rectify) is damaging in a way that we do not do anything anymore to better ourselves… which leaves us to becoming, God forbid, boiled frogs. Good post mashaaAllaah.

  18. Ameer Sahib of JUI couldn’t even be called fanatic, he was rather being a blood sucking oblivious parasite to his ‘so called’ Islamic knowledge (SORRY) assumptions I mean, thus, feeling free to initiate and emphasize his own animalistic approach on silence of raped women. Had Islam made women so vulnerable, there wouldn’t have been existence of Muslim female infants (or let me quote here the pitiful teachings of Talmud ; according to which ; ”women should be treated as meat, open to all”- with no rights to complain offcourse).

    Well-articulated, well-written post Habiba :)

  19. Wow!!! :o

    I came here to thank you for the birthday wishes and found myself educated!!! :)

    Here in the UK there is much racism due to the failure of various newcomers of many races to assimilate.

    Officially it is frowned upon, but I hear it every day.

    On the other side I have been driven home in a taxi driven by a man now in prison on terrorism charges, we have the 7/7 suicide bombings in London and an image of Islam as an intolerant, inflexible, hate and fear generating nightmare out to destroy all that we have while coming in droves from across the world to enjoy our benefits of wealth, Justice and tolerance.

    I tried to read the Koran, but my online copy died horribly, I tried to make sense of Islam and was instead bombarded with multiple negative opinions of a first century religeon that refuses to grow and only seems intent on destroying the Western way of life by any means rather than by becoming a part of the future of our world.

    We have had protestors screaming hatred and death to anyone who insults Islam and these have played right into the hands of the Right Wing parties here in the UK while we see the Taliban trying to turn all women into illiterate baby carriers, killing teachers who dare to educate them and blowing up or otherwise destroying schools that dare to accept women as students.

    The stories of children and retarded women being turned into suicide bombers are also deeply sickening as they seem intent on destroying the innocent in the name of their Jihad.

    Islam is NOT a religeon of child murder and mass slaughter, but as long as there are Imams eager to preach hatred and murder, twisting Islam to their cause of creating a Caliphate across the Middle East, people here in the West will see it as a threat and the bloody slaughter will go on…

    Like you said: The frog is going to boil…

    Love and squishy hugs Habibe – you are a VERY intelligent young woman…

    God Bless!


    • The fact that you feel threatened of the consequences of religion being played up by clerics is understandable. On and off I have read news of the growing politicized version of Islam being propagated by right wingers to achieve their objectives. You see, religion is easy to cash. And when opportunists find a herd of devotees who seldom bother to think, then they have found the golden egg to exploit. Now its upto them how they use them, it can be mass-movements, or anything pertaining to violence-whatever fits in their political agendas. Its not only you, we also feel threatened of this coz we have seen what happens when power lands in the hands of these people, taliban govt in Afg is a fair suited example here.
      I being a Muslim oppose all this, strongly. Not only these people are defaming religion but their ideologies are inherently wrong. Faith is a matter between man and God, I wont ever vote for imposing it on other people like this-let alone other nations in whose case i dont have any right to intrude in their matters. have a nice day prenin, hugs! :]

  20. Just caught your second comment hun! :)

    I like to help people in trouble and help them recover their lives, but a local gangster family have it in for me – loooong story – and now Doug (who ties into them) is trying to make out I am Gay which would get the gangster family out of a very difficult position.

    We have some really despicable people in this town and Doug is a butt kisser and coward who desperately needs their protection.

    He’s already tried once to mess up my life, so I wouldn’t be amazed if he tries again…

    God Bless!


    • It nice that you like to help people and are concerned about them. But you need to draw a certain line, if other people’s problems start messing your life then you need to give a check. Its not an insensitive thing to do, its sanity. At the moment, I can only hope that Doug wont land you in any trouble, tc :)

      • Hi hun! :)

        I agree, but helping people like Doug sometimes means taking the rough with the smooth.

        I helped him and he has repeatedly tried to mess with my life because of his ‘friends’, so I am now shutting him out.

        It’s hard for me – I really care about people – but I am learning to look after myself first and if things get bad then to walk away…

        Doug is alcoholic and so he has a million excuses why he drinks, but when sober he is a good man, it is only when he drinks that he becomes abusive and threatens suicide.

        Unfortunately he drinks a lot…

        Love and hugs!


        • I will encourage you here, that’s the only option left now. Doug depends on others too much, let him experience life on his own, he will eventually learn to get a grip on himself.

  21. I am really happy that I came here and can see that there is progressive view left in Pakistan though I can see some commenters disagreeing with you. Fundamentalism needs to be erased, both in India and Pakistan

  22. Hi hun! :)

    Yes, Saturday was a normal day and I agree about dreams – planning how we would spend a fortune should a miracle happen is a sweet but futile exercise… :)

    Love and hugs!


  23. Ah.. yesterday I saw a book in sunday bazaar with the title “How to boil a frog”. More or less the same words printed on the first page. I love this post! The fact that “unconditional faith” can sometimes be truly destructive is so well put here!

  24. Who care about the book when we have a post like this to read! (: It’s just painful to see people legalizing criminal actions in the name of religion. Oh I could just go on and on about this.. but I already posted a long comment up there! Besides I’d been making some cartoons on the same lines. They would better show how much I agree.

      • hai na :P on a serious note although u say that this thought process is ingrained in our brought up or something and that most people may be have such delusional approach i for one feel that this phenomenon was created on purpose some three or so decades ago. i remember still that we had a qadiyani family living in our neighbor hood whom we used to send qurbani meat on eid. then i had some qadiyani class fellows whom we never even had ever thought were someone different who deserved to be treated differently.. but now the things have changed. either people have become skeptics or scared.. i still feel to most of us it doesnt really matter how the religion is being politicized and used for vested interests. well that is my pov.

        • I also remember that as a kid, there wasn’t such insane lunacy around me. Yes, it gained flare mostly in the past years. But the indoctrination thing i mentioned is another phenomenon, which becomes mutual with it at a point. The gradual mind programming left us too vulnerable to counter the affect of the potent hate brewing strikes. thats where these two blend in my opinion. One had negative potential but appeared harmless, thats why for decades it remained with us like a dormant seed. Now when it got watered by those seeking opportunistic exploitation, the outcome is obvious.

  25. Hello Habiba

    Yes, I was bitten by a snake.
    It was quite a while ago, so I’m all better now.
    I think that probably the main reason that I was talking about it was because it was only a few hours old and made me so ill. It was a baby eastern brown snake that bit me on the tip of my finger.
    I put my hand into a bag of chaff to scoop out some chaff for my horse and I just felt some sharp pain in my finger, and when I looked, it had a drop of blood and two very small puncture wounds to my finger.
    I then looked down to the chaff bag and saw the baby snake sliding back down into the chaff, and decided very quickly to get myself off to hospital, where I was treated.
    For a little snake.. haha they sure pack some poison !
    I would not like to be venomated by a BIG eastern brown at all!

    Habiba… it’s always good to hear from you my friend.

    Wishing you a beautiful day x

    • whoa! the snake was bit too aggressive for the baby status. These things tend to hide in stuff like that horse chaff and dark corners. Im particularly conscious in this case, rather phobiatic; since im even very uncomfortable while walking on rough grass.
      tc :]

  26. Some of your arguments seem so true, yet with some of the others I disagree.
    Blaming radicalization for all of our troubles is just a lot of oversimplification, and the ‘love each other, hate the rest” strategy is followed everywhere. Maybe not so vehemently, but it is followed.
    Religion is seldom the real bone of contention; money and power are way more bewitching to their seekers. Religion is very easy to use in a ploy, as it can easily arouse the sentiments of the public, and it is often used in that manner.

    • militancy is a direct branch of fanaticism, and that is one of the major challenges we face today. What you are saying and what I say more or less sets in the same frame. I just state it explicitly, maybe too explicitly.

      • Again, why are you saying that militancy is a problem for all humans? Perhaps you dont like militancy, but there are like-minded human beings, who are perfectly sane, and who believe that militancy is fine. You can disagree with that notion, just like they disagree with your notion that militancy is wrong.

        We celebrate human birth as a joyous moment, yet it is a moment filled with violence, blood from uterus/womb, chaos, cries and mother’s shrieks. That shows that deep down all humans love violence, albeit extent varies.

  27. I just loved the way you have put it, the frog fate analogy fits us well. Malik Mumtaz Hussain Qadri is revered as a Ghazi by most of my friends and relatives. When Salman Taseer was murdered, I was in my university hostel and believe me people were literally celebrating his death, just the way Americans celebrated Osama’s death. The imam of our mosque regularly pays tribute to Qadri in Friday sermons. Initially, I used to engage in debate with people on this issue but gauging their reactions, I have stopped.

      • just when i was watching tv today the situation in khi after the alleged insinuating remarks by one party person for the other party its ppl n leadership made me wonder about one thing.. i d like to share with u guys.. i was thinking if it was alright to malign someone? if it was alright to react the way the ppl did in reverence for their leader and their ppl which they were continuously claiming is a communal clique and against which heinous acts are being committed so it was their right to hit back? and then i was thinking that if any leader was so important and so sacred and beyond criticism how come the leader and teacher of all Muslim clique the Prophet SAW is not supposed to have this kind of stature that ppl should be on streets if they feel their leader is defamed and maligned? and when muslims are claimed to be terrorists in general on the basis of their so called extreme religious teachings we as muslims dont have a right to protest that we are not terrorists, the terrorists alone are terrorists whosoever they are? and last but not the least I am not saying that to come out on streets or the use of violence is the correct measure per se for any cause, but rather what i am implying is that how come one type of behavior is considered natural, understandable and unavoidable in one set of circumstances and the same behavior is considered jahalat, animalistic, or primitive in another.. *again i am not saying that it should be allowed for both the cases, rather it should not be allowed to be adopted for either in my humble opinion, as human life is sacred than everything else*

  28. Buon Weekend Cara Amica..
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  29. Just like how you feel justified to have your opinions, Mumtaz Qadri and his fans feel justified in having their opinions. Yes, you will not pick up a weapon to kill those you disagree with but apparently Qadri did. But does it make your group better than that of Qadri’s? Not so sure. You can certainly feel that way if you want to, that you are all educated and mature. But those words only have meaning in relativistic sense. There is no absolute maturity in this universe. So if you wish, you could also pick arms up, but in the end, the fittest will survive. So hath mother nature dictated eons ago.

      • Who has made a rule that violence has no justification at all? That is what you think, but others have freedom to think otherwise. Humanity has evolved in violence committed on us by mother nature in forms of famine, diseases and mishaps. Being a part of mother nature, it is only natural for humans to commit what you call violence, I do not call it that though. To me it is like imitating mother nature.

        • mother nature also created pedophilia, rape and other instinctive roots of all evil. But Oh absolutely nothing wrong in doing all this, is it? After all we were just ‘imitating mother nature’!

          • Rape, pedophilia and incest are not instinctive. They are outcomes of biological desires acted upon consciously (in some cases they are due to psychiatric diseases).

            And yes, rationally, there is nothing wrong with rape, pedophilia and incest. Why? Because there are no morals as a biological entity. Morals sometimes help humans to create societies, but that is about it. Morals are NOT necessary for survival and reproduction, the two main goals of biological life.

  30. I hope you wont judge me by believing that I believe pedophilia, rape and incest are right. I do not believe so, but only because I believe in a God who has told me that those things are wrong. If God did not exist or the idea of His existence did not exist in the form of religion then pedophilia, rape and incest are perfectly fine as they are mere workings of mother nature.

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  32. You have expressed our present state perfectly! We have grown numb…

    Well actually, some of us are still not ignorant, totally aware and shouting out loud about the madness that prevails…but those who have greater authority to actually make laws and enforce them are dead.

    Things must change…a nation 64 years old, but still struggling…education, awareness and enlightenment are greatly needed, awareness is being created to some extent…but we still have a long long way to go…

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