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It’s quite outrageous when people defend Talibans with lame justifications. But it is even more frustrating when people present ridiculous theories of the ‘good’ and the ‘bad’ Talibans. People having confused perception about these fanatics consider the Pakistani Talibans terrorists but at the same time idealize the Afghani Talibans as the champions of Islamic Shariah. No surprise. Worshipping anything that comes with the tag of religion (even if it has no credible link with religion) is a common phenomenon in Pakistan. Majority of the people consider the state system introduced by the former Taliban government in Afghanistan as an exemplary Islamic state. Although contrary to this misconception, that system was nothing more than the product of typical Taliban mentality rich in barbarism, extremism, sheer male dominance and religious exploitation.

Quite frankly speaking the popular view that Afghanistan had zero crime rate in the Taliban reign is mere fiction to me. Lets suppose even if this was the case then how can we casually ignore the horrifying atrocities inflicted upon women by the Talibans themselves? In this very so called zero crime rate era the radical Talibans like Gulbaddin, Rabbani, Masood, Sayyaf, Khalili, Akbari, Mazari and their co criminal Dostum framed the most inhumane law code to terrorize humanity. It was more of a crusade against women rather than any type of Shariah. They imposed a complete ban on female education and the girl’s schools were turned to religious seminaries. Many female teachers and students who did not abide by this restriction were severely punished, beaten and some were even sprayed by acid. Women were not allowed to work and any woman without burqa or out of home without a mahram was publically flogged. Family planning was outlawed. The use of cosmetics and perfume was strictly prohibited and women with painted nails have had their fingers cut off. Any woman appearing on the balconies of their apartment or houses had to face dire consequences.

In these suffocating conditions the suicide rate among women peaked in the Taliban times. Women were forbidden from working except some female doctors were given permission to work in some exclusive female hospitals. Women were not allowed to be treated by a male doctor even in dying circumstances due to which the death toll of women inflated since the number of female doctors in Afghanistan was negligible. All female doctors were ordered to wear burqa in the hospital even in the operation theatre which resulted in frequent operation failures due to poor vision. In short, women were deprived of a humane existence and were simply reduced to the level of household slaves and as a means of procreation.

Apart from the general cruelty, the Talibans could not help showing their lunatic side as well.  Since for them even the word “women” is sexually alluring that’s why they modified all the places names including the word “women” e.g., “Women’s Garden” was renamed as “Spring Garden”. Even female public baths were banned. All the people with non Islamic names were ordered to change their name to Islamic ones. Other than that all men were forced to grow a beard. Even technology appeared haraam to them that’s why the use of internet was banned. Let me make it very clear here that all these rules and punishments were equally binding upon foreigners as well.

Minorities were forced to wear a badge or stitch a yellow patch on their dress so that they could be differentiated from the Muslim population. So for those claiming that Talibans brought ‘justice’ maybe religious discrimination (let alone gender discrimination) is justified.

Even with its obvious brutality, most of our religious scholars defended the Taliban government. Dr Israr Ahmed not only justified the Taliban violence on numerous occasions but also attributed it as a highly ‘peaceful’ system. Not only that but many of our so called ‘intellectuals’ advocate that Taliban state concept. Javed Chaudhry, easily the most celebrated journalist of Urdu press is a great admirer of the  Taliban government. In one of his famous articles he wrote that in the Afghanistan of Taliban there was hundred percent justice, tolerance, self sacrifice, hospitality and modesty. No wonder people have confused views when it comes to extremism. What to talk of the general public when even  for our thinking idols the violation of human rights means absolutely nothing.

Under the guise of religious observance Talibans only exercised their personal sick ideology. ‘Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan’ is a wrong terminology; we should rather recall it as the ‘Taliban Emirate of Afghanistan’. It is quite common to hear people idealizing the Taliban government in leisure drawing room discussions. Not only that but even many are of the view that the salvation of Pakistan also lies in that same crooked system. It is utterly disgusting to see even many women wanting the same sadistic state code in Pakistan. All such people should rather go and form such a state on a vacant island and open the membership for extremists and those women who want to spend their lives like goats and sheep. The only plea is to kindly don’t demand the same system in Pakistan and spare us the binding extremism. Not all of us are much fond of a fanatic suicide.

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30 thoughts on “Spare us the horror!

  1. Habiba Im Really Impressed. I did’nt thought you had this kind of writing skills.But I must say that you highlighted many things that i was unaware of and let me just say that all these people that are in favour of the talibans are of the fact that ‘IF YOU CANT BEAT EM JOIN EM’.There is just no Need to this.I hope you come up with solid new facts that how this EVIL can be abolished forever.Bt until then very well done..Keep up the Spirit..BEST OF LUCK…

  2. thanks for your input adil 🙂
    The first step in evading any type of evil is to ‘acknowledge’ and ‘accept’ it to be a heinous act and understand the gravity of the situation. That’s what I tried to highlight here as the reason we are bring terrorized by talibans is because we consider them some sort of “pious jihadis” (blah!). Once we realize them to be a a potential threat, only then we can go on to do something against such fanatic extremism.

  3. habiba,yeah there were alot of things which were unknown to me…….bt now,through this i hve come to know….this is the need of the hour to tell the people about such realities.We r just following all these blindly.so,keep it up.

  4. I wanted to say there’s no END to This. But People are supporting talibans even when they know that they are not the Good guys,cause they cant fight these so called pious jahadis,or maybe people are really that dumb that they think that these talibans are there saviours!! GOD BLESS US….

  5. firstly, its a great attempt to enlighten things which a common person doesn’t know here and I won’t be going into the details of that because everyone knows about our so called Education system which teaches us to discriminate right from the word go. But, my point of view is that when you point out something which isn’t right then you should also highlight the solutions to that, how we can over-come to make it right, an alternative way to go about things and produce better results. Like, the taliban system in Afghanistan is not that appropriate and it doesn’t fulfills the real teachings of Islam (on which each one of us will agree), but then again whats the alternative to that?? “so called democracy”?? “more American troops to be deployed so that the Americans can achieve their vested interest”?? “Are they going to give rights to women of Afghanistan”?? “Will they fight to end up in justice and discrimination inter and intra religion”?? And the answer is a big and categorical “NO”. I would want you to write on the points I’ve highlighted too but all in all its a great attempt and yeah “keep it up” Habiba..
    :))

  6. I read your post and am thankful that somebody decided to talk about the truth rather than brushing it under the carpet. Three of my best friends are pro-Taliban and they believe that the Taliban ‘ideology’ is good and should be practiced. I have had heated debate with my friends and one of my teachers over the matter but they always label me to be a part of a minority sect, which is why I denounce Taliban. One of my friends even think that Taliban is an artificially created concept and there is nothing such as Talibanization anywhere in Pakistan. It’s just a plotting of Yahood o Nasara.
    Don’t know what has happened to the common sense of the people? Can’t they see things which are so obvious?
    With such people in my proximity, I think that Karl Marx’ saying truly apply to these people and i.e. “Religion is the opium of the people.”
    And God knows, which inhumane religion are they following?

  7. yea!!!! habiba i appreciates what u write…..there was some things that were unknown…bt nw i cme to knw all..:P u wrote solid facts…:)..and i admire what u writes

  8. You are right. There is no good Taliban or bad Taliban. There is only one Taliban and that is bad Taliban. I wish Pakistani army and the ISI were smart enough to understand this conspicuous fact…!

  9. Habiba! Superb piece of info!
    Not many are well-aware of ground realities and what exactly is eating the core of Pakistan like a termite..Thanks for widening the horizons on such a World hot topic !

  10. Assalm u Alaikum to all my brothers & sisters,who have,very aptly, put all their efforts in trying to highlight something,which co-existed,prior to the pre or post taliban regime!
    what im going to say,will not in any way be an offence to any one,infact,it should be viewed & opioned with an open mind!

    to sister Habiba Younas,it was a good effort.however,it was slightly biased (i will highlight the important points on which YOU have to ponder & decide as to where YOU–i.e womenfolk stand)

    To all others,who gave their opinions & views,are much appreciated,because we are all humans,we make mistakes & the best thing to do is repent,especially at times like these,WHERE “TALIBANIZATION” SORT-OF RULES!

    ok,here comes the part where what is wrong & what is right
    for most of the part,where talibans become TOO serious of reducing women to total garb,is totally true!no doubt that,they are too strict with their actions,too gruesome & too maniacally resolved to the Shari’ah!

    fair?agree with everyone here?or rather everyone agrees to this point right????

    WRONG!>>>> justifying what is false,as true & true as false is what is killing this nation,literally,with such blasphemous thoughts,projections towards the utlimate goal(that is to please Allah as much as one can) is in itself a total smokescreen of what the acutal picture is!

    Miss habiba,you talk about force & strictness & “SEXUALLY ALLURING” thoughts that they change names & so-on & so-forth,have yu,for even one second read about the followings & teachings of the Sunnah(Shari’ah) ??

    Allah has said in the Qur’an “that women is closer to her God(Allah),who sits in the far corner,completely secluded in her house & keeps away from the outside world”—- can u realize what this implies?

    In the Qur’an & Sunnah books (Sahih Bukhari,Muslim,Tarmidhi,Dawood & a few others,i 4get now) have all restricted women LEAVING THERE HOMES & doing what they want to do,except for prayers & WHEN IN NECESSITY!

    u talk about talibans,what about the general rule that the male is dominant over the women,but there equal in all rights?her rights dont mean she is to go out & put on fragrance & make-up(in the open),roam freely in the open (without any mahram or person who is related to her) or try seducing people in ways that are closer to haraam actions,that u cannot imagine,or maybe u do know what im talking about!
    y nip the evil in the bud,when u can prevent the evil from nipping u???
    a women has to do whatever it takes to keep herself chaste & away from sin or comitting sin,because,women are easily strayed to the wrong side!men dont opt for prostitution,women do….so dont say u disagree.

    MY QUESTIONS,NOW,ARE ALL FOR YOU,Sister Habiba!

    you want to roam around like the west do & think people wont do anything to u?bikinis,see-thrus & what not? sorry madam, but ur seriously dropping the bomb yourself if u disagree with me here!
    all this has nothing to do with talibans doing what there doing or not doing… what matters is what WERE doing!

    education is important,but what is more important,self-respect in the house,or going out to get education,where one can easily become a victim of harrassment,sexual obect?—-logic!
    is obeying your fathers,brothers,mothers,sisters(accordingly to Islamic teachings) better or enjoying freedom & going astray & then facing consequences because of it?
    is mixing with non-mahram more important (like going to parties,clubs,leisure activites,fun) or rather sit in the house & do some house chores & help your mother,better?

    is worrying about what talibans do better or what you, your siblings,neighbours etc are doing more important?

    AGREED on the fact( & i made myself clear that what the talibans do are not TOTALLY ISLAMIC FOLLOWINGS,BUT AT LEAST THEY TRY FOLLOWING IT,EVEN IF IT IS STRICT AT TIMES)

    extremism is what the local people call the talibans now a-days & TALIBAN is a brand name for it & that there behind it all! do u know what even taliban means? “TALIB = A PERSON WHO IS AN AALIM(LEARNED PERSON) taliban is a person who can easily tell u what is wrong/right (in Islamic literature,not chemistry or physics)……WHOOOPS,TALIBAN TELLING U RIGHT OR WRONG?..now thats something.you know why the talibans are doing these things now-a-days?because nobody is doing anything according to the Islamic teachings, & have been forced to take STIFF ACTIONS…but people are blind,they say its extremism..i say its their own fault for inducing such actions into the society.y they blow-up netcafes etc etc?? tell me please!

    who do u think pose a bigger threat? THE JEWS,with there skillfull planning ,from education(imagine darwin prsenting the EVOLUTION THEORY-which was being taught by so many retarded teachers,they didnt know the topic itself is kuffar & God knows how many students have studied this kafirs topic)..HAHHAAHAH,totally effing retarded),banking system,to economic lay-downs,to disrupting every single organism on this planet with utmost ease through TV(showing haraam things ;SEXUALLY ALLURING SHOWS,modern technology(where u can literally eat,sleep & shit in the same place-UNBELIEVEABLE),presenting the western side(short-skirts,bikins,clubs,beauty parlors & God forbade wat not,which are totally un-islamic) clothes,hairstyles,manners, & what not……………. OR THE TALIBAN,for cutting hands & killing a few meagre innocent people(who Allah knows best,if they were even innocent)??

    SEE THE BIG PICTURE?

    NO? ok let me round it all for u >>> WHEN IT WILL ALL COME DOWN TO THE END,WHO DO U THINK WILL BE FIGHTING THE KAFIRS & THE OPPRESSING ONES? THE TALIBANS OR THE JEWS????????itna to pata hoga k Jews are a cursed nation by Allah,so…..think about it.ok?

    i could go on & on & on & on & on & it would really not matter,because,you guys are afraid only for the little things that bother you particularly & dont notice the bigger problems that are affecting everyone!

    Hazrat Muhammad (may Peace & blessings of Allah be upon him always) said “in the end of times,most of Dajjal’s followers will be women”

    can you please present a decent picture of women now-adays?i would gladly like to see that,because honestly,i dont think that talibans are to blame for the cutting of painted nails & beating their wives(which is permitted in Islam,not to extent of injury,but enough for her to realise what she did wrong),it is the other way round >>> y paint nails?y cut ur hairstyles that make u look like the kafir actors & actresses?y present yourself SEXUALLY ALLURING to anyone,which is a gunnah in itself?y make people do,what there supposed to do at the end!
    the beginning is not the end,its the end thats the beginning!

    Sister Habiba,i would really appreciate if you changed your opinions about talibans in general & women strictness in particular!& ponder over the things i have just laid down!please read the afore-mentioned books & study on women!
    if you read them & act accordingly , i swear by Allah’s Supreme Oneness,that no harm will EVER come to you,neither by taliban or any other low-life!& Allah knows best!

    I apologize for a rather straight & direct approach to your some-what confident,yet,confused article!i appreciate your honesty & guts to lay out the matter,which,indeed,does present a very vague & disturbing picture of our nation in general & women in particular.but i assure you,if YOU & all the sisters who read this comment or above lines before,that no harm will ever come to you! keep your faith in Allah always,fear Him & no one else.because its His fear that enables one not to take stupid actions.

    by the Grace of Allah,i pray & thank Him that He makes us realize our mistakes from time to time,& that we repent for it.Allah is All-Hearer & All-knower.dont be eluded by the smoke-screen that taliban or others are presenting,just be yourself,according to Shari’ah & see where you stand.

    my apologises to anyone who got offended with my statements,but believe me,after all,im human,so please.DONT JUDGE,for judging is Allah’s work & He alone WILL judge in the end.

    DUA- “Rabban a’atina fit’duniya hassana’ tun wa’fil akhira, wa hassan tun wa’kinna azabul’nar,wal fitna tal messiah al dajjal”

    Wa’ Assalam u Alaikum, Warahmat Ullahe Wabaraka tuhu

    Jazzak Allah khair

  11. @ Arsalan,
    I am very disappointed after reading your comment on women. This is the problem with the ideology of Taliban. Taliban and the people, who follow their ideology, treat the women like as if they are just the commodities to be exploited.

    Who are the Taliban to dictate their terms to the women? Who are they to curb the freedom of the women? Who are they to stop the women from going to markets without a male partner?

    The women are smart enough to understand what is wrong for them and what is right. We must not force our will on them. We must respect their freedom, the way they respect ours.

    The time has come for the people like you to get real and smell the coffee. See the progress the women have made in every field. Be it education, jobs or any other work; the women are giving a tough competition to their male counterparts in almost every field. We are no body to dictate on their lives and I mean no body.

    Always remember no country in this world can progress without an equal participation and contribution of the women. If Pakistan has to progress and become a modern nation then the woman like Habiba Younis has to be encouraged and appreciated instead of demoralizing them. If Taliban had their way then even Benazir Bhutto couldn’t have the Prime Minister of Pakistan. Just think about it.
    I am sorry if I used any harsh words but I feel very strongly about this issue.

    Regards..:-)

  12. @ Arsalan,
    I am very disappointed after reading your comment on women. This is the problem with the ideology of Taliban. Taliban and the people, who follow their ideology, treat the women like as if they are just the commodities to be exploited.

    Who are the Taliban to dictate their terms to the women? Who are they to curb the freedom of the women? Who are they to stop the women from going to markets without a male partner?

    The women are smart enough to understand what is wrong for them and what is right. We must not force our will on them. We must respect their freedom, the way they respect ours.

    The time has come for the people like you to get real and smell the coffee. See the progress the women have made in every field. Be it education, jobs or any other work; the women are giving a tough competition to their male counterparts in almost every field. We are no body to dictate on their lives and I mean no body.

    Always remember no country in this world can progress without an equal participation and contribution of the women. If Pakistan has to progress and become a modern nation then the woman like Habiba Younis has to be encouraged and appreciated instead of demoralizing them. If Taliban had their way then even Benazir Bhutto couldn’t have become the Prime Minister of Pakistan. Just think about it.

    I am sorry if I used any harsh words but I feel very strongly about this issue.

    Regards..:-)

  13. @Rabia and Sadia, thanks for your feedback 🙂
    @Sarah B Haider, totally agreed! and yeah I have also heard these spooky ‘fiction’ tales of how Yahood o Nasara are conspiring against us behind the “illusionary” mask of talibs (as stated by them).
    As for the remark on your sect, unfortunately it has becomes a common practice nowadays. Just for the sake of beating the argument, people turn to suppress the other person by attacking his/her faith. Dont pay heed to such dumbs !
    I have close friends belonging to different schools of thoughts; sunnis, shias, wahabi, deobandi, brevli etc etc. All my observations are drawn to only one conclusion: their is no such major difference in all these categories. These are just man made superficial differences and stupid are those people who scratch conflicts out of these trivial issues.

  14. @ Sapan Kapoor, Thanks for replying arsalan’s post, you made my job easier 🙂
    @ Arsalan, Sapan has already stated most of what I wanted to say here. Just a few imp points though.

    You claimed the following to be a verse form Koran:-

    “women is closer to her God(Allah),who sits in the far corner,completely secluded in her house & keeps away from the outside world””

    Well Arsalan, first of all this is not an aayat from Koran. Maybe while quoting it, you added or subtracted a few words of your own by mistake. If you think I’m wrong then copy-paste the exact verse here clearly “as it is” along with the verse and ch number.
    I hope you are well aware of the fact that carelessly mishandling verses like this just to prove your argument is more condemnable than the issue of women using cosmetics.

    And in another place while addressing me you say:-

    “you want to roam around like the west do & think people wont do anything to u?bikinis,see-thrus & what not? sorry madam, but ur seriously dropping the bomb yourself if u disagree with me here!”

    WHERE in my post did I say that I want to roam like western people or want to wear bikinis, see-thrus etc etc ? Sorry to say ‘sir’ but it only shows your own mentality. How can you pass these judgments about someone you dont even know? I think you have enough language command to get the gist of this article but it clearly seems I’m mistaken.

    At another place you commented:-
    “,women are easily strayed to the wrong side!men dont opt for prostitution,women do….so dont say u disagree.”

    If women opt for prostitution then will you kindly tell me who are their customers?
    O yeah! I forgot men are innocent angels descended from seventh sky and these women are the devils who “lure” them to the evil side…poor brainless chaps with no hormonal control chips installed in their nerves.

    As for your statement:-
    is obeying your fathers,brothers,mothers,sisters(accordingly to Islamic teachings) better or enjoying freedom & going astray & then facing consequences because of it?

    I dont remember calling women to go astray or “disobey” their parents etc. You totally twisted the main idea of the article to God knows what..!

    And you say:-

    “extremism is what the local people call the talibans now a-days & TALIBAN is a brand name for it & that there behind it all! do u know what even taliban means? “TALIB = A PERSON WHO IS AN AALIM(LEARNED PERSON) taliban is a person who can easily tell u what is wrong/right (in Islamic literature,not chemistry or physics)……WHOOOPS,TALIBAN TELLING U RIGHT OR WRONG?..now thats something.you know why the talibans are doing these things now-a-days?because nobody is doing anything according to the Islamic teachings, & have been forced to take STIFF ACTIONS…but people are blind,they say its extremism..i say its their own fault for inducing such actions into the society.y they blow-up netcafes etc etc?? tell me please!”

    My ans: You are clearly defending talibs here by saying they turn to extremism since all the rest of Muslims have become sinners. So is THIS the justification of the blasts they do, of the lives they take,of the families they tear apart, of the people they mercilessly slaughter? I’m literally amazed at your insensitivity! If people in the net cafes are doing something immoral to the taliban standards than does it mean they should be blown up? If you see someone doing something wrong will you shoot him to death? Is this your way of practicing Islam? Plus talibs are just blood thirsty demons, they dont care whether their victims are Innocent or not. Tell me why the cafe of International Islamic Uni blown up? The girls there werent dancing, drinking or clubbing! Or what is the fault of the people who get blown up on bus stops or markets?
    Talibs are NO ONE to dictate us what we have to do or not!
    Last but not the least, I’m not confused in my view about talibans as you remarked. I have a clear cut approach: What talibans are doing is terrorism and those who support or justify them are also playing their part in terrorism. period

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  16. Comprehensive analysis. AND I am glad that you have the guts to speak against popular believe.

    People in our country dont even know about the history of Afghan talibans , how and when they came in power. The funniest thing is that people in our country confused them with Mujahideens.

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